Larry Baker
2018-01-29 20:26:28 UTC
Hey Clem,
I read your Quora answer "Why is Fortran Still in Use?" and wanted to read another post you made there about "Why did Unix succeed and not Multics?". It wanted me to sign in with Google or Facebook. I use neither. Can you post a link here like you did for your Fortran post that I can use to read your Multics post?
When I started at USGS we had three Multics mainframes for scientific computing, one in Reston (Agency headquarters and Eastern Region headquarters), one in Denver (Central Region headquarters), and Menlo Park, where I am (Western Region headquarters). They were abysmally slow and expensive. Fortran was an afterthought. We (the Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program) escaped Multics' clutches initially with our own PDP-11/70s, and later a VAX-11/780 (the first VAX in the USGS, later transformed into a VAX-11/785). USGS was, I think, the last commercial (non-DoD) Multics installation to survive. I know the commentary in the Bell Systems Journal special UNIX Time-Sharing System issue. I'd be interested to read your take.
Thanks,
Larry Baker
US Geological Survey
650-329-5608
I read your Quora answer "Why is Fortran Still in Use?" and wanted to read another post you made there about "Why did Unix succeed and not Multics?". It wanted me to sign in with Google or Facebook. I use neither. Can you post a link here like you did for your Fortran post that I can use to read your Multics post?
When I started at USGS we had three Multics mainframes for scientific computing, one in Reston (Agency headquarters and Eastern Region headquarters), one in Denver (Central Region headquarters), and Menlo Park, where I am (Western Region headquarters). They were abysmally slow and expensive. Fortran was an afterthought. We (the Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program) escaped Multics' clutches initially with our own PDP-11/70s, and later a VAX-11/780 (the first VAX in the USGS, later transformed into a VAX-11/785). USGS was, I think, the last commercial (non-DoD) Multics installation to survive. I know the commentary in the Bell Systems Journal special UNIX Time-Sharing System issue. I'd be interested to read your take.
Thanks,
Larry Baker
US Geological Survey
650-329-5608
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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:00:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [Simh] DEC GEM vs. Intel compilers
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a tad OT for simh ...l
<https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Fortran-language-still-in-use-and-most-importantly-relevant-in-HPC-Is-it-just-because-this-language-has-tremendous-numerical-calculation-capability-which-is-an-important-part-of-HPC/answer/Clem-Cole <https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Fortran-language-still-in-use-and-most-importantly-relevant-in-HPC-Is-it-just-because-this-language-has-tremendous-numerical-calculation-capability-which-is-an-important-part-of-HPC/answer/Clem-Cole>>
].
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:00:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [Simh] DEC GEM vs. Intel compilers
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
a tad OT for simh ...l
[See: Clem-Cole's Quora Answer - Why
is Fortran Still in Use<https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Fortran-language-still-in-use-and-most-importantly-relevant-in-HPC-Is-it-just-because-this-language-has-tremendous-numerical-calculation-capability-which-is-an-important-part-of-HPC/answer/Clem-Cole <https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Fortran-language-still-in-use-and-most-importantly-relevant-in-HPC-Is-it-just-because-this-language-has-tremendous-numerical-calculation-capability-which-is-an-important-part-of-HPC/answer/Clem-Cole>>
].